*New Outing* - Sault Ste. Marie (St. Mary's River) in ON, CA

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Thanks Dave

Postby thefisher1 » Sat Jan 19, 2008 7:39 pm

Hey all,

I'm happy to hear that the outing is enjoyed by all.
But I have to say that all the credit goes to Dave.
He took the time and put together the whole outing, I just supplied the outing photos, that was the easy part.
He did the rest.

He Did and awsome job with the photos they actually look better in the game, lol.
I really like the challenge mode outing.
Really love the idea of the monster fish swimming the shallow depth of the river waiting to pounce on a helpless fly bouncing bottom or flowting down river.
Alos a pleasure to have first in an outing this fine looking dinosaur fish that I'm sure will be a challenge to catch.


Thanks again Dave.


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Postby geraldro » Tue Jan 22, 2008 7:29 pm

hi dcarp

Thank you for this outing, that of work, me, I can't still create one... :oops:

best regards

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Postby nccorthu » Wed Jan 23, 2008 1:42 am

Thanks for a great outing. finally got to fish it. Sure beats to have real salmonids to work on rather than the Carp , Near Carp and other oversized Gold fish. Around here we rake them in to trash any way we can. In fact they rotenoned Lake Davis a again to get rid of that. Salmonids and Bass, ok maybe Bluegill and Crappie too.
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Postby carpman » Fri Feb 01, 2008 12:42 am

Any one has caught the prehistoric fish??? lots of salmon and trou but no prehistoric fish yet :( :( :( :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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new outing

Postby Carolmo » Fri Feb 01, 2008 1:14 am

I believe I had 2 of them on--briefly! :( They were at the bottom of my screen and I saw them when I hooked them! The first one snapped off immediately and the second one took all of my line, and after awhile, all of my backing and then snapped off! I had an 0X tippet on! At the rate of speed at which he was running--he should be at your house by now! :D :D :D
It was scary! :D
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Postby wasteelhunter » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:50 am

I actually saw one surface once, very near the bottom of the screen, huge thing... right after that i got a hit, but was just a salmon. Have yet to hook one of these brutes.
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Postby nccorthu » Fri Feb 01, 2008 3:52 pm

Sounds like caviar flies or maybe cheese balls will get one. EHHHMMM??
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Postby richwest » Fri Feb 01, 2008 5:33 pm

Gary,

Put some cheeseballs in front of my nose and you get a hit too, hehehe!

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Postby Cutch » Fri Feb 01, 2008 6:17 pm

I got one but I had to use a Pink hand grenade fished with 3 shot and my attractor at 6 feet....LOL. (Just joking) :wink:
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Postby enielson » Sat Feb 02, 2008 4:34 am

Hey, everyone!

I've finally seen one of the BIG fish in this river... :shock: Couldn't hook it though. We don't see very many Sturgeon in Maine (rarely one gets caught near the coast, but it's illegal to even take it out of the water), so I'm sure I'm not using the right gear... I would think they eat shrimp, and crayfish. Anything anyone can tell me about these fish? It's very cool that you included them in this outing.

As always, a big thanks to the creators who spent their time to make such a unique outing.

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Postby dcarp » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:05 am

Erik,

I'll share what little I know (which may just be fishing stories). My understanding is that they are prehistoric, or at least post-prehistoric. Either way, they've been around a very long time. They are very adapatible fish. Prior to the damming of rivers, they acted similar to salminoid species - Living in the Oceans and spawing in rivers, some quite far inland. They are also know to follow other species into the rivers systems. Although there are resident fish here in Oregon in the Columbia and Willamette Rivers, more fish show up when the Shad are running in to spawn. They are almost exclusively bottom feeders.

In the Pacific Northwest, anglers are allowed to keep one fish between the lengths of 39-60 inches (or something like that). Those smaller and larger are to be released unharmed. Those regulations apply only to fish that are free to return to the Ocean. Landlocked sturgeon (behind dams) are not to be taken out of the water if caught and NONE can be kept legally. I've only caught Columbia River sturgeon from a boat, using short - stalky poles on 80 lb test, using herring or shad for bait. The common practice is to anchor in 60-80 ft of water and drop your line to the bottom. Once you hook a big one, cut loose from your anchor (attached to a big ball float) and start the fight. The big ones just pull you around the river until tired. It is quite a thrill when they jump and you realize that you are connected to something bigger than you are, or even bigger than your boat is!

I have never been fortunate enough to catch a keeper, but have caught many "shakers" (small ones around 20" inches or so) and I have also caught monsters (8-12 feet). They are very good to eat - my father-in-law landed a keeper this past summer.

In southern Idaho, where I grew up, there are a good number of sturgeon in the Snake River. They don't get quite as big as their cousins that can return to the ocean though. My brother and I fish for them in the Spring time at my mothers home on the Snake. This past year I brought two fish, both between 5.5 - 6 ft. On the Snake, we fish from the bank using heavy, 12 ft. rods with 100 lb test. Casting is quite a challenge on baitcast reels. Gotta remember to spit on your thumb first or you'll burn through the skin as 100 yards of monofilament goes screaming off the reel. Fighting and landing a big fish is much more difficult as it is mano-fisho! No letting them drag you around until tired (unless you have scuba gear on)

The old timers where I grew up told stories of landing big fish with Model A's or teams of horses. There are pictures in the museum of my home town of fish in the 14-16 ft range. A fish that big is over 100 years old and weighs around 800 lbs. That was before the dams went in though.

I've never heard of one taking a fly though, but since Dan said they were present in the St. Mary, I was very happy to make the species and put some in. Paul helped me make them nearly impossible to catch. They are in there mostly for visual effect as they will sometimes inhabit shallow water and can be seen passing through areas. They are also known to rise to the surface, I think just to look around.

Here is some great information about them if interested:

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Postby wasteelhunter » Sat Feb 02, 2008 6:16 am

Sturgeon Fly made simple:

http://www.mediafire.com/?119lxxfwhjo

Enjoy!
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Postby taupo_tiger » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:14 pm

hello you all,
:)

so this one does not count - it was on beginner´s level - but it WAS A GREAT FIGHT!

thanx so much dave for putting in the chance for such a fight

so now i will try on expert mode

:)

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd31 ... ginner.jpg

http://i226.photobucket.com/albums/dd31 ... innerb.jpg

Fish: 59.88 inch Sturgeon from thefisher1_StMarysRiver; Code: FJLNYVEMOINHRWBAMPEGXCFAWSOBMWOVKKIONTDKSL

all the best,
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sturgeon

Postby Carolmo » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:35 pm

Congratulations, Taupo!
As I recall Dave said the first person, but not on what level, gets the prize! (quote below)
"The first person to hook and land the new species will win a prize, just be the first to send your fish code via PM or via email to dcarp@wvi.com "
Enjoy your fish!
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Postby richwest » Sat Feb 02, 2008 7:37 pm

congratulations Taupo,

Your the first one!!!

I've only seen shadows of them

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Carol is right, sent it in to Dave
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